The mystery of Benjamin Rivera Noriega

Benjamin Rivera Noriega CPX

Runway length 2600ft. 

Spot set to start of rubber tyres marks on RW31

Landed between numbers”31” and start of tyre marks, yet distance given from spot as 1975ft

I have rechecked my non ils data as I at first thought I had entered RW13 data for RW 31’s

Maybe I’m landing on a mirage or more likely I’m just doing something stupid

 My non ils co-ords are as follows;

31,312,N18_18_81,W65_18_29,3,BENJAMIN RIVERA NORIEGA.CPX

An ice cream to the first person to spot where I have gone wrong

Biggles piloting American Champion Scout FSX White with red and gold ended 27 June 2009 at 23:33

Aircraft: Bellanca    ID: N109JG    Airline:     Flight:

Flight plan: TIST TO CPX    NAV1:

Failure(s): None at landing

Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None

Failure Bonus:0%   Flight Duration:00 Hours   13 Mins   26 Secs

Landing Score:0.00

Landing was successful in the following areas:

* Good alignment with runway on visual approach.

* Gentle touchdown.

* Good landing speed - not too fast.

* Wings were level.

* Distance from touchdown target (visual approach): 1975 feet

* Glideslope held until flare.

* Good pitch control after touchdown.

* Good pitch at landing.

* With flaps - good job.

* Heading aligned with runway.

* Throttle(s) idle.

* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.

* Good steering after landing.

Landing included the following problems:

* Poor glideslope on visual approach - you can do better.

Definite room for improvement...

Bruce E (6/28/2009)

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The mystery of Benjamin Rivera Noriega

Benjamin Rivera Noriega CPX

Runway length 2600ft.

Spot set to start of rubber tyres marks on RW31

Landed between numbers”31” and start of tyre marks, yet distance given from spot as 1975ft

I have rechecked my non ils data as I at first thought I had entered RW13 data for RW 31’s

Maybe I’m landing on a mirage or more likely I’m just doing something stupid

My non ils co-ords are as follows;

31,312,N18_18_81,W65_18_29,3,BENJAMIN RIVERA NORIEGA.CPX

An ice cream to the first person to spot where I have gone wrong

Biggles piloting American Champion Scout FSX White with red and gold ended 27 June 2009 at 23:33

Aircraft: Bellanca ID: N109JG Airline: Flight:

Flight plan: TIST TO CPX NAV1:

Failure(s): None at landing

Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None

Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:00 Hours 13 Mins 26 Secs

Landing Score:0.00

Landing was successful in the following areas:

* Good alignment with runway on visual approach.

* Gentle touchdown.

* Good landing speed - not too fast.

* Wings were level.

* Distance from touchdown target (visual approach): 1975 feet

* Glideslope held until flare.

* Good pitch control after touchdown.

* Good pitch at landing.

* With flaps - good job.

* Heading aligned with runway.

* Throttle(s) idle.

* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.

* Good steering after landing.

Landing included the following problems:

* Poor glideslope on visual approach - you can do better.

Definite room for improvement...

OK

LOOK AT THIS

I did the same flight, but let FSFS have the default rwy 13 in the flightplan... I got this

Ole Andreasen piloting Cessna Skyhawk 172SP G1000 ended 28. juni 2009 at 10:59

Aircraft: Cessna    ID: N700MS    Airline:     Flight:
Flight plan: CPX TO CPX    NAV1:
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0%   Flight Duration:00 Hours   01 Mins   15 Secs

Landing Score:0,00

Landing was successful in the following areas:
* Gentle touchdown.
* Good landing speed - not too fast.
* Wings were level.
* Distance from touchdown target (visual approach): 1850 feet
* Good pitch control after touchdown.
* Good pitch at landing.
* With flaps - good job.
* Heading aligned with runway.
* Throttle(s) idle.
* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
* Good steering after landing.
  
Only thing Im concerned about is the fact that you got a "Good alignment with runway on visual approach" You shouldn´t have that if you set the NAV1 OBS dial to 312. I didnt, on the second flight, but I didnt get "youre NOT lined up with the runway either" I will try to make another one and this time have the rwy to 13, and actually fly all the way over the rwy and land on the spot you created - from the other side.... and see what Smith makes of that. Back later on the subject, but in the meantime I think maybe...... you have looked at the flightplan in FSFS and set your dial to rwy 13 - is that possible? that, and my observations would fully explain the log you got.

Can I choose from different icecreams? and will you ship it to Denmark in a freezer?

Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

This is a strange one

I created a flt plan cpx to cpx using runway 13

Nav Obs at 132

RW 13 set on fsfs flt plan and this is waht I got 

Biggles piloting American Champion Scout FSX White with red and gold ended 28 June 2009 at 13:25

Aircraft: Bellanca    ID: N109JG    Airline:     Flight:
Flight plan: CPX TO CPX    NAV1:
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0%   Flight Duration:00 Hours   06 Mins   01 Secs

Landing Score:0.00

Landing was successful in the following areas:
* Good alignment with runway on visual approach.
* Gentle touchdown.
* Good landing speed - not too fast.
* Wings were level.
* Distance from touchdown target (visual approach): 1695 feet
* Glideslope held until flare.
* Good pitch control after touchdown.
* Good pitch at landing.
* With flaps - good job.
* Heading aligned with runway.
* Throttle(s) idle.
* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
* Good steering after landing.
  
Landing included the following problems:
* Poor glideslope on visual approach - you can do better.
Definite room for improvement...

Next leg to TJFA was ok so I guess I'll put it down to something I have done wrong but I know not what. Perhaps its the little people that come out to play in the night

Let me know your choice of flavour and I will send it over by carrier pidgeon

Biggles

Ive just reflown the cct at CPX having removed the non ILS data and look at the landing score

Biggles piloting American Champion Scout FSX White with red and gold ended 28 June 2009 at 14:51
FSFlyingSchool 2009 (May 12 2009)
Using: FSX
Visibility: 62.14 Miles     Wind: 0 Knots

Aircraft: Bellanca ID: N109JG Airline: Flight:
Flight plan: CPX TO CPX NAV1:
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:00 Hours 05 Mins 19 Secs

Landing Score:91.00

Landing was successful in the following areas:

• Good glideslope on visual approach.
  
• Gentle touchdown.
  
• Good landing speed - not too fast.
  
• Wings were level.
  
• Distance from touchdown target (visual approach): 149 feet
  
• Glideslope held until flare.
  
• Good pitch control after touchdown.
  
• Good pitch at landing.
  
• With flaps - good job.
  
• Heading aligned with runway.
  
• Throttle(s) idle.
  
• Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
  
• Good steering after landing.
• 
  

I'll just continue and write it off to data malfunction or input error somewhere along the line.

Thanks for your help

 Enjoy the ice cream when it arrives

Biggles

This is an interesting puzzle. I cannot look into the coordinates and testing it at present, but just wanted to drop in and talk about one thing...

Ole mentioned:

Only thing Im concerned about is the fact that you got a "Good alignment with runway on visual approach" You shouldn´t have that if you set the NAV1 OBS dial to 312.

If it helps...

the data computed by FSFS2009 (using MakeRunways) for this airport is:

13,130,N18_18_99,W65_18_62,3,CPX.CPX
31,310,N18_18_78,W65_18_23,3,CPX.CPX

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Thanks for that I have checked CPX's rw co-ords and yes they are as you say in your post

BUT

When flt plan entered for CPX to CPX in fsfs  waypoints for rw 31 on fsfs show as follows

0: laceName>CPXlaceName> laceType>AIRPORTlaceType> [018.3131,-065.3039]

1: laceName>CPXlaceName> laceType>AIRPORTlaceType> [018.3131,-065.3039]

Should they not be the same as the FS9 runway co-ords????

Also thanks for the info on the distinction between "Good alighnment..." and Heading Aligned...." Most useful

NOW

After CPX I flew the next leg to TJFA and things seemed to have resolved themselves   Silly me-speak too soon I them flew TJSJ  to ABO and guess what - the problem was back

Biggles

Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

Thanks for that I have checked CPX's rw co-ords and yes they are as you say in your post

BUT

When flt plan entered for CPX to CPX in fsfs  waypoints for rw 31 on fsfs show as follows

0: laceName>CPXlaceName> laceType>AIRPORTlaceType> [018.3131,-065.3039]

1: laceName>CPXlaceName> laceType>AIRPORTlaceType> [018.3131,-065.3039]

Should they not be the same as the FS9 runway co-ords????

Also thanks for the info on the distinction between "Good alighnment..." and Heading Aligned...." Most useful

NOW

After CPX I flew the next leg to TJFA and things seemed to have resolved themselves   Silly me-spoke too soon I them flew TJSJ to ABO and guess what - the problem was back

The following is the flight report with non ils data entered for rw 08 at ABO

           08,083,N18_26_97,W66_40_81,4,ANTONIO NERY JUARBE POL.ABO

I then removed the non ILS data by changing the filename to ABOx  from ABO and reflew the  exact same leg to RW 08 with the following results

I'm going mad  I meant TJSJ to ABO        Heeeeelllppp

Biggles