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Posted Monday, April 27, 2020 1:06:16 AM
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Hi Oliver:

Thanks for your question - we constantly monitor what people are asking for and from time to time we do surveys too - and right hand circuits are certainly on the list of things to do, but they are not in high demand. In this they have much in common with support for helicopters, gliders and combat manoeuvres.

So... we'd like to add them, but we will very likely do other things, which are in greater demand, first.

It's not the same of course, but if it helps at all, you can of course practice approaches for both left and right patterns using the approach features built into

FSFlyingSchool PRO 2019 for FSX/FSX-SE/FS2004

or

FSFlyingSchool PRO 2019 for P3Dv4

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FS Instant Approach 2020 for X-Plane 11


Have a great week of flights!
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Posted Monday, April 27, 2020 10:34:31 AM
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Hi,

Ok, thanks for the answer.

I'm trying to get a circuit score better than ... zero.

Step by step. Flight scores are not so bad ... now often below 75%.

Landing using Approaches with or without ILS are no so bad too ...

If i mix everything in circuits, my landings are very bad ...

so, i try, again and again !
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Posted Monday, April 27, 2020 2:47:16 PM
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Just to share :

Oliver piloting A2A C182 VH-DLL ended lundi 27 avril 2020 at 23:42

Aircraft: Cessna ID: VH-DLL Airline: Flight: 0
Flight plan: NAV1: MER
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:00 Hours 06 Mins 59 Secs

Landing Score:26,35

Landing was successful in the following areas:
* Gentle touchdown. [85 FPM]
* Good landing speed - not too fast. [57 KIAS]
* Wings were level.
* Good pitch control after touchdown.
* Good pitch at landing. [5 degrees]
* With flaps - good job. [11 degrees]
* Throttle(s) idle.
* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.

Landing included the following problems:
* No glideslope information was available on visual approach.
* No runway alignment information was available on visual approach.
* Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface.
* No glideslope - could not compare flare to glideslope.
* Nowhere near the centre line - get lined up and keep it that way.
* Touch down not aligned with the runway - let's point down the runway.
* Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line.
Definite room for improvement...


Circuit Score:0,00

Circuit included the following:
* Good Upwind heading.
* Good Upwind altitude.
* Good turn onto Crosswind leg.
* Good Crosswind heading.
* Good Crosswind altitude.
* Late turn onto Downwind leg - turn Downwind on reaching 1000 feet AAL.
* Poor Downwind heading - fly parallel to the runway.
* Poor Downwind altitude - maintain 1000 feet AAL.
* Late turn onto Base - turn when circuit reference point is 45 degrees behind you.
* Good Base heading.
* Good Base altitude.
* Late on Final - get onto final sooner next time.
* Banking not too steep.
* Final circuit leg too long [388] secs.
* Landing too far from Circuit reference point.
* Landing distance from Circuit reference point:282 feet.
Definite room for improvement...
Circuit Score reset to zero due to poor Landing Score (under 50 points).


Flight Score:100,41

Flight commended in the following areas:
* Smooth turns.
* Nice banking.
* Correct matching of flaps to speeds.
* Comfortable G forces.
* Smooth pitch control.
* Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
* Gentle taxi turns.
* Good take off steering.
* Rotation was not late.
* Safe taxi speed.
* Smooth braking during taxi.
* Smooth climb during takeoff.
* Wings level near ground.
* Well coordinated turns.
* No stalls.
* No flying dangerously close to stall speed.
* Smooth comfortable descent rate.
* Pitch not too high.
* Pitch not too low.
* Flaps down on time.
* Approach speed not too fast.
* Low altitude speeds not too fast.
* Good clearance of obstacles.

A smooth flight!

Cheers,
oliver
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Posted Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:00:40 AM


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Hi again Oliver:

That was a great, gentle landing!

But - the instructor thinks you landed in a field. He/she did not get the runway information he/she needed. This is done automatically if you are:

(You must always do all 3 of these - every landing)
- Lined up with your runway when
- Descending through 500 feet AGL
- In landing mode



1. Were you flying to LFQT?

2. Please try a total of 3 landings at 3 different airports which are NOT add-on airports and let me know what the result is.

3. Is the airport you were flying to an add-on?

4. Have you 'generated runway data' for FSFlyingSchool PRO 2019 for P3Dv4?

5. What version of P3D are you using?


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Posted Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:05:46 PM
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Jeff,

1. Were you flying to LFQT?
I was in circuit mode, at LFQT.


As answered in the other post, LFQT is an addon from France VFR. Runways data have been generated successfully.

I will try circuit with 3 stock airports and let you know.

Thank you !

Regards,
Oliver
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Posted Friday, May 01, 2020 7:46:31 AM
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Hi,

Circuit made today at VHHH -Stock airport) :

Oliver piloting A2A C182 VH-DLL ended vendredi 1 mai 2020 at 10:13
FSFlyingSchool Pro 2019 (January 27 2019)
Using: P3D
Visibility: 62,14 Miles Wind: 0 Knots

Aircraft: Cessna ID: VH-DLL Airline: Flight: 0
Flight plan: NAV1: IHHW
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:00 Hours 07 Mins 58 Secs

Landing Score:25,75

Landing was successful in the following areas:
Gentle touchdown. [272 FPM]
Good landing speed - not too fast. [45 KIAS]
Wings were level.
Glideslope held until flare.
Good pitch control after touchdown.
Good pitch at landing. [7 degrees]
With flaps - good job. [25 degrees]
Throttle(s) idle.
Good controlled final descent to touchdown.

Landing included the following problems:
Poor glideslope on ILS approach - you can do better. [0%]
Poor alignment with runway on ILS approach - line up and stay there. [0%]
Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface.
Nowhere near the centre line - get lined up and keep it that way.
Touch down not aligned with the runway - let's point down the runway.
Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line.
Definite room for improvement...


Circuit Score:0,00

Circuit included the following:
Good Upwind heading.
Poor Upwind altitude - climb smartly to 500 feet AAL.
Good turn onto Crosswind leg.
Good Crosswind heading.
Good Crosswind altitude.
Late turn onto Downwind leg - turn Downwind on reaching 1000 feet AAL.
Good Downwind heading.
Poor Downwind altitude - maintain 1000 feet AAL.
Late turn onto Base - turn when circuit reference point is 45 degrees behind you.
Poor Base heading - fly at 90 degrees to the runway.
Good Base altitude.
Late on Final - get onto final sooner next time.
Banking not too steep.
Landing distance from Circuit reference point:221 feet.
Definite room for improvement...
Circuit Score reset to zero due to poor Landing Score (under 50 points).


Flight Score:94,47

Flight commended in the following areas:
Smooth turns.
Nice banking.
Correct matching of flaps to speeds.
Comfortable G forces.
Smooth pitch control.
Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
Gentle taxi turns.
Good take off steering.
Rotation was not late.
Safe taxi speed.
Smooth braking during taxi.
Smooth climb during takeoff.
Wings level near ground.
Well coordinated turns.
No stalls.
No flying dangerously close to stall speed.
Smooth comfortable descent rate.
Pitch not too high.
Pitch not too low.
Flaps down on time.
Approach speed not too fast.
Low altitude speeds not too fast.
Good clearance of obstacles.

A smooth flight!
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Posted Friday, May 01, 2020 2:56:22 PM
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Hi,

Something got my attention today : at each flight, instructor says that then runway lenght is ... feet. Nothing else.

So i went back to Generate Runway data for P3d. Here's the cmd line :

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>copy /y MakeRwys.exe "E:\P3Dv4\"
1 fichier(s) copié(s).

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>copy /y FSFSRwys.exe "E:\P3Dv4\"
1 fichier(s) copié(s).

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>copy /y FSFSRwys.fsf "E:\P3Dv4\"
1 fichier(s) copié(s).

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>copy /y P3D.rwy "E:\P3Dv4\"
1 fichier(s) copié(s).

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>set str="E:\P3Dv4\"

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>set str=E:

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>E:

E:\FSFlyingSchoolP3D>cd "E:\P3Dv4\"

E:\P3Dv4>MakeRwys.exe


And the message returned :



The process is then going on for about 54661 runway data ...
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Posted Saturday, May 02, 2020 4:13:43 AM


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Hi Oliver:

A small number of users hit a problem when 'generating runway data' with FSFlyingSchool PRO 2019 for P3Dv4 – and the following simple instructions only apply IF you hit a problem performing that step. If there is no problem you do NOT need to do the following.

Here are the steps…

- If you are having problems 'generating runway data' with FSFlyingSchool for P3Dv4...

At present it would appear that if the free 'Lorby Prepar3D V4 Addon Organizer' is downloaded

from here...

http://www.lorby-si.com/downloads.html

and installed...

and then the latest version of the free MAKERWYS.EXE is downloaded from here...

http://www.schiratti.com/dowson.html

and placed into both the FSFlyingSchool folder and the main Prepar3D folder

and then FSFlyingSchool PRO 2019 for P3Dv4 is launched and

'Generate runway data for P3D' is chosen...

...both MAKERWYS.EXE will run to completion

AND

'FSFlyingSchool runway data v 3.41' will also run to completion...

at which point - the task is complete!


If your system is working fine - please leave it alone - we don't want to create problems on a working simulator.



Going forward - we are working on what will be the next step to make this rather more straightforward - and automating as much as we can.



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Posted Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:39:01 AM
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Hi,

Lorbysi addon organbiser downloaded (1_54_b02) and MakRunways (4.90) downloaded and pasted in P3Dv4 an FSFS 19 directories.

So, MakeRunways is ok :



But there is an error



Not my day ?

Thanks,
Oliver
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Posted Saturday, May 02, 2020 8:04:06 AM


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Hi Oliver:

Thanks for all the information - it is a great help in solving the case.

I recommend that you copy the file

P3D.RWY

from the folder where you installed FSFlyingSchool PRO 2019 for P3Dv4

into

the folder where P3D is installed on your PC.

The file you will copy is the default runway data which comes with FSFlyingSchool.

This should mean that you are able to fly with FSFlyingSchool into and from all the standard airports supplied with P3Dv4.

This standard data may not exactly match your add-on airport data, if the add-on airport data is has runways, taxiways and ILS paths in places which are different to standard P3Dv4 data.

Do you have a drive onto which you can place, for sharing, the data generated on your PC? (It is likely to be about 99 MB).

I will need the file

Runways.txt

If you have a place to share it (like DropBox or Google Drive) then please email a link to the file to

support@FSFlyingSchool.com

Thanks!


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