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I started with flying circuits, but I guess I do something wrong...but what is it?
Below I pasted the details of my flight. I turned the OBS to the right heading (checked it with the data output on screen), but why does it say NAV1: --- ? Does this matter?
As I fly the upwind, crosswind, downwind and base leg are fine (Mr. Smith confirms this). NB: I waited to turn downwind to get some extra time. I earlier tried to turn exactly on 1000 ft AGL -> no luck...
As I am flying base Mr. Smith tells me to turn to final => but this is way too early! If I continue and turn to final at 500 ft AGL the result is: no glidescope info etc.. and a low landing score (see below). If I only practice landing there are no problems => I usually score 70-85....
FSFS also reports that my final leg is too long => but how it this possible as the total flight is only 8 mins.?
What am I missing?? NB: I tried several different airports and I also followed the instructions found in post #11002 exactly (or so I think).
I would appreciate some help!
Regards,
Matthijs
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Matt piloting Cessna 172SP ended dinsdag 11 maart 2014 at 20:55
Flight plan: NAV1: ---
Flight Duration:00 Hours 08 Mins 56 Secs
Landing Score:26,05
Landing was successful in the following areas:
* Gentle touchdown. [180 FPM]
* Good landing speed - not too fast. [51 KIAS]
* Wings were level.
* Good pitch control after touchdown.
* Good pitch at landing.
* Heading aligned with runway.
* Throttle(s) idle.
* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
* Good steering after landing.
Landing included the following problems:
* No glideslope information was available on visual approach.
* No runway alignment information was available on visual approach.
* Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface.
* No glideslope - could not compare flare to glideslope.
Definite room for improvement...
Circuit Score:0,00
Circuit included the following:
* Good Upwind heading.
* Good Upwind altitude.
* Good turn onto Crosswind leg.
* Good Crosswind heading.
* Good Crosswind altitude.
* Late turn onto Downwind leg - turn Downwind on reaching 1000 feet AAL.
* Good Downwind heading.
* Poor Downwind altitude - maintain 1000 feet AAL.
* Late turn onto Base - turn when circuit reference point is 45 degrees behind you.
* Good Base heading.
* Good Base altitude.
* Late on Final - get onto final sooner next time.
* Banking not too steep.
* Final circuit leg too long [545] secs.
* Landing distance from Circuit reference point:120 feet.
Definite room for improvement...
Circuit Score reset to zero due to poor Landing Score (under 50 points).
Flight Score:94,53
Flight commended in the following areas:
* Smooth turns.
* Nice banking.
* Comfortable G forces.
* Smooth pitch control.
* Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
* Gentle taxi turns.
* Good take off steering.
* Safe taxi speed.
* Smooth braking during taxi.
* Smooth climb during takeoff.
* Wings level near ground.
* Well coordinated turns.
* No stalls.
* No flying dangerously close to stall speed.
* Smooth comfortable descent rate.
* Pitch not too high.
* Pitch not too low.
* Approach speed not too fast.
* Low altitude speeds not too fast.
* Good clearance of obstacles.
Flight included the following problems:
* Late rotation - when Vr is reached - take off.
Definite room for improvement...
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Hi:
Looks like you are almost there!
>> but why does it say NAV1: --- ? Does this matter?
This means that NAV1 was not tuned to a NAVAID - which is what you want if you are not doing an ILS landing.
To confirm - it is essential that the OBS is set to the runway heading and that you are pointing in that direction when you start circuit mode.
The evaluation reports that you did not land on the runway surface OR that the approach was not established - be sure that when you descend below 500 AGL in landing mode you are pointing at your destination runway otherwise the instructor will not know where you are landing and will treat the landing as if you landed in a random location, such as a field or a street.
Are the airports you've tried add-on scenery? If they are then you most likely need to run the process to "generate runway data" in FSFS.
Please let me know how you get on.
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OK, that was the trick! I kept my altitude at 600ft AGL before turning to final => now Mr. Smith confirmed the runway number (so information about the glidescope etc was available). I have my first circuitscore (86)!!!
Thanks a lot for the help!
The only thing that still puzzles me is the fact that Mr. Smith says "turn to final" way too early. In this flight he said it directly after I turned to base.... => I ignored it and it turned out OK, but still the question is why? The only thing I can think of it the fact that my downwind leg was quite long...
Regards,
Matthijs
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Hi again:
Excellent result! 
As for the turn onto final - please fly a circuit and then use FSFS to submit your flight map to our website. Then reply to this post with the URL (web address) of the map and we can all have a look at it! I'd love to see it and will then be able to attempt to solve the riddle. 
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